Black Metal
Vakhtang Tskhvitava – Bass, Keyboards
Nikoloz Rukhadze – Drums
Vasil Doiashvili – Vocals, Guitars
You can't talk about the Georgian Metal scene without talking about Vasil Doiashvili. Not only is Vasil one of the most prolific metal musicians in the Caucasus, performing with numerous bands like IM NEBEL or ILLUMINATED, he's also THE pioneer when it comes to the evolution of Black Metal in the Caucasus in the early 1990s. Today the "father of Georgian Black Metal" is the mainman of the Symphonic Black Metal outfit RUINS OF FAITH from Tbilisi, who released the formidable album "To the Shrines of Ancestors" in 2006. But let’s start at the
beginning. Vasil, you were one of the first musicians to play Metal in Georgia.
You already started in the late 1980s with your first band DARK HEAVEN. Could
you please introduce DARK HEAVEN to us?
DARK HEAVEN formed in 1988. This band was in fact the first Melodic
Death Metal band in Georgia. Regarding the line-up it was pretty standard: we
had three guitars, bass, vocals and drums. We were young and not really professional.
After about one year of rehearsing we recorded a mini album titled “Dark
Heaven” in the Marjanishvili Theater music studio.
Is there a chance to still
listen to it? Maybe soundfiles?
No. It was recorded in four hours, because we didn’t have the money
to pay the studio. The songs were recorded on magnetic tapes. Unfortunately all
sound files are lost today.
Did the studio owners have
experience with Extreme Metal back then in the late 1980s?
No, the studio was very old. I think the equipment was from the
1960s or 1970s. And of course it was no Metal studio. There were no studios and
producers who had any experience with Heavy Metal in Tbilisi at that time.
When you started with Dark
Heaven it was still in the Soviet Era, before Georgia became independent on the
9th of April 1991. What was it like playing Metal in the Soviet Union? Where
did you buy albums, for example? How did you find out about Heavy Metal in the
Soviet Union?
Playing Death Metal in the Soviet era was a disaster: horrible
instruments, bad rehearsal spaces, no stage experience whatsoever … Also this
style of metal was something which was shockingly new.
Not even the Georgian
Hard’n’Heavy musicians of that time did understand what we were trying to
achieve with growling vocals. But I can say it’s not a big difference to today,
haha… Anyway, metal music is not popular in Georgia and I think this situation
will still last for a long time. Bands must emigrate to Europe for a normal
existence in my opinion.
Were there any other Metal bands around in Georgia in the 1980s/early 1990s, besides Dark Heaven?
Yes, there were a couple of thrash and hard’n’heavy metal bands:
MORYTUR, DOUBLE CROSS, CORRUPTION, WEEKEND, MEMENTO MORI …
Cool, I never heard about
any of those. Can you tell us more about them?
I can’t tell you much, we weren’t really in contact with them. I
just watched some live shows these bands were playing. MORYTUR was a
Death/Thrash Metal band. They recorded an album and emigrated to Russia in
1989. A few months later I got the news from an old friend that they were in
jail. And now they’re all dead. I don’t know what really happened to them. I’m
sure someone knows more about all these bands, unfortunately I don’t.
Promo shooting for PERGAMO (1995) |
In the early 1990s you
started the Black Metal Pioneers PERGAMO. What happened to DARK HEAVEN? Who
were your main influences to start PERGAMO?
In the 1990s I heard about Black Metal while browsing through radio
channels. I found the frequency of a Russian radio station, which was playing
music by bands like IMMORTAL, BAL-SAGOTH, DIMMU BORGIR and EMPEROR.
I was impressed very much, haha… especially after I found some
pictures and interviews in magazines which came to Georgia with a delay of
about one year after they were published in Europe, haha… In 1993 I went to Turkey. Turkey was more
open for metal music around that time. I also met more metalheads from Europe
there. And I found a couple of metal shops and recording studios in Ankara. I
also played in a Turkish Black Metal band called SARCOPHAGUS. After I returned to
Tbilisi in 1994 I met the guys from my old band DARK HEAVEN and told them about
my experiences in Turkey. I also tried to convince them to change DARK HEAVEN’s
style to Black Metal. They weren’t really happy with my idea and told me I
really was out of my mind, hehe… So Black Metal didn’t really fit to the
Georgian mentality at that time …
After a couple of months, I met a person in Tbilisi who understood my
thoughts and my taste in music. Together we decided to do some kind of experiment. We
recorded our own Black Metal compositions at home. We experimented to become
interesting and we took these home recordings to a famous radio station around.
We never had any hope to get airplay, but we succeeded! Our songs were the
first Black Metal music broadcasted on air in Georgian radio stations!
Not bad at all! It was just you two guys back then,
right?
Yes, but soon after
we talked about turning the project into a real live band. At the beginning of
1994 PERGAMO was finally formed: Three guitars, drums and keyboards. This was
also the reason for me to leave DARK HEAVEN, ‘cause I didn’t have the time for
two bands and my interest for DARK HEAVEN was exhausted.
I remember you telling me
about the legendary first gig of PERGAMO with Corpsepaint, candles , etc. Can
you please tell us more about this show?
The first ever PERGAMO live show took place in 1995. The show was in
some basement in the center of Tbilisi. It was the only place where you could
perform underground music. We made everything for our live concert ourselves: collecting
equipment, making nail-spiked gauntlets, drawing the tickets, making the
corpsepaint …
Black Metal conquering the Caucasus - The legendary first PERGAMO gig in 1995. |
That’s the Do-it-yourself
underground spirit!
Yeah! When we finally started playing, we were already tired,
hahaha… But for the audience our first Black Metal show was like a bomb
exploding from the stage. I remember, before we were starting to play, the staring
faces of the metalheads for the first five seconds, not understanding what was
going on. Anyway the show went great, there were about 300 metalheads, also the
press. PERGAMO became quite famous in Tbilisi, but it wasn’t good for the band
and also personally for the band members. The press reacted in a very negative way,
like: we were Satanists, and Black Metal was no music. And society must punish
us for such deeds. Also PERGAMO’s quick popularity stirred some hatred from
other Georgian metal bands towards us.
Oh dear… What happened?
After our first live show most of the metal scene and the society was
against us. They thought that Black Metal was a shame for the Georgian Metal scene,
that it was unprofessional, that Black Metal was not music and Black Metal shows
are not acceptable for Georgians.
We got a message telling us we must go to church and be baptized to
help ourselves. We were laughing so much about this message, hahaha. We didn’t
have any problems with the police though. But nevertheless the police really was a problem for metalheads. The police
arrested them for nothing, just because of their long hair. And then they shaved
their hair, that was pure sadism…
Fuck, that’s bad…
After this we played one last live show in the same place in 1996
and then stopped playing live altogether.
The 1990s were a pretty
hard time for Georgia. There was a lot of chaos, crime and problems with electricity
and stuff. How did this affect the development of the metal scene in Georgia?
When you look at the development of the metal scene in Georgia, I think it
really starts around 2002/2003. A lot of new bands were forming, the scene was
getting bigger. What happened around that time? What were the main reasons for
the scene to expand in these years?
Indeed, it was a terrible time for the whole country. But the metal
scene continued existing deep underground or on undercover parties.
Yeah, parties where metal was played unplugged in
some of our friends homes. As you can see the history of metal in Georgia in
the 1990s is even more terrible than what happened in Norway during that time,
hahaha...
Hahaha, awesome!
Anyway, there was no chance to develop and promote metal outside of
Georgia, to show the world that there are interesting metal bands in Georgia.
The only way was to leave the country, because of these problems. This was an inner
conflict for many musicians playing in bands. Realizing that our music had no
future in Georgia we stopped rehearsing and disbanded. In 2000 in Georgia happened big political and economic changes. I
think this was the main reason why the Metal scene in Tbilisi got bigger. And
this is not just about metal, all underground scenes are much more bigger now.
But I’m sure the internet
played a part in this evolution as well, right?
Sure, the internet was very important for Georgia. It already
arrived in the first half of the 1990s, but at that time probably only 10 % of
the people owned a computer. After 2000 the internet was available for 100% of
the people in Tbilisi. I think the internet helped to show the world what was
happening in the Georgian metal scene. Also the people here discovered foreign
bands and metal music styles that they didn’t know before.
In 2001 you started RUINS
OF FAITH. Can you tell us a little more
about RUINS OF FAITH?
In 2001 I had the opportunity to meet some people who made me think
about a new beginning: Vakhtang Ckvitava (Guitars), Igor Smichkov (Keyboards)
and Giorgi Gogidze (Bass). We became friends and together we made our first metal
studio in our home’s basement in 2003. And after inviting Nik Rukhadze (drums) we
started rehearsals.
In 2006 you released your
debut album „To the shrines of Ancestors“. Did you do it all by yourselves or
did you go to a professional studio/producer?
We already started to record our full length album “To The Shrines of
Ancestors” in 2004. We did it in our own studio. It was finished in 2005 and
released on the famous Russian label “Haarbn Productions” in 2006. It was the
big deal for RUINS OF FAITH. CDs were sold in Russia, Europe and Japan. Info
about RUINS OF FAITH was spread on European websites and magazines like Dark
City or Metal Art …
„To the shrines of
ancestors“ reminds me a lot of DARK FUNERAL and SETHERIAL. What were your
influences when you were writing the album?
My favorite bands are Emperor,
DIMMU BORGIR, BATHORY, MARDUK, DEATH … Actually, when we were working on the album,
we tried not to listen to a lot of other music, because we wanted to get rid of
all influences. Our mission was to make some music of our own, and our own
vision of Black and Death Metal. Really, it was no easy task. I think we created
something special. Maybe the music reminds of famous old school and new
European Black Metal, but I think this is usual for this genre. The main theme
of the lyrics of the album were philosophical and mythological topics.
What do you mean with
“philosophical”?
Vasil in the Warsteiner Pub, Vashvlovani St, Tbilisi 2012 |
Ah, now I understand what
the bandname is about! And great to hear that you’re working on a new album! By
the way, how does society in Georgia react to Black Metal today? Georgia is
still a very religious country, the church is still pretty powerful, right? Did
you ever have problems because of RUINS OF FAITH?
Yes, we had problems and not only RUINS OF FAITH… This problem is for all the underground music
scenes of Georgia. In the eyes of our Orthodox Church we all are the same shit.
As you know, RUINS OF FAITH don’t use satanic lyrics and stuff, but anyway the
Church hates us. Also 90% of the society is zombified by the church.
What do you think about the
development of Black Metal compared to the early 1990s. I mean, in the 1990s
Black Metal was dangerous, now bands like Immortal or Emperor are headlining
Wacken. What do you think about it? Is it a good thing that extreme metal
reaches the masses or would you prefer it to stay extreme and underground?
I think getting mainstream is normal and usual. I just don’t like
radical stylistic changes in some of the legendary Black/Death metal bands,
like SATYRICON, ULVER, SAMAEL or ANCIENT.
Being the „father“ of
Georgian Black Metal, what do you think about your „sons“, current bands like
PSYCHONAUT 4 or DIABOLUS SANCTUS?
Yes! These guys are heroes! Performing
such extreme suicidal shows in Tbilisi! This is really dangerous for them, but
think they don’t give a fuck about it, also they already are popular in Europe.
And as far as I know PSYCHONAUT 4 are preparing their first Euro trip this
autumn, so I wish them a nice fucking trip!
DIABOLUS SANCTUS are my good friends, I’m supporting this band. They
are deep into these satanic themes and it is rumoured that they burned some
icons and crosses, which is very controversial in such a religious country as Georgia.
They also wear corpse paint and inverted crosses on stage. They have released a
demo album, titled “Voice Of Satan”. Now DIABOLUS SANCTUS are working on a new album.
What is your wish for the
Georgian scene? Is there anything you’d like to change, if you had the power?
Nothing!
DISCOGRAPHY
To the Shrines of Ancestors
2006
1. To The Shrines Of Ancestors (part 1)
2. Pagan
3. Father Fire
4. The Everquest
5. To The Shrines Of Ancestors (part 2)
6. Ruins Of Faith
7. Mournbringer
8. Solar Eclipse
9. Murvan Kru
It's all true! Life of Georgian metalhead is a hard one, but we are keeping horns up! Thank you, Vasenka!!!
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